RBR2
Apr 13, 11:58 AM
Do you trust Wikipedia? :) In fact the line above this one on Wikipedia says:
Everything I've read that is sourced to Intel says an add-on card won't be possible. It's my guess that the integration for Thunderbolt needs to be deeper than an PCI Express card, especially with its capability to carry video/data. It may be that Intel does not want people confused by data-only Thunderbolt ports. OTOH, I'm not a Thunderbolt engineer, so I may be completely mistaken. :D
Technical issues aside - odds are that Apple would rather sell you a new Mac Pro with Thunderbolt onboard.
I am not a Thunderbolt engineer either...in fact, it is interesting (and odd) that Intel is only now announcing the availability of a TB developer kit.
Do you trust the Wiki? While a grain of salt is advisable, I merely reference the item. It does seem to me, however, that the line you reference is talking about a non-GPU PCIe card. I had posted an earlier comment referencing the Intel position that there could not be a TB card (because TB must directly access both the graphics processor and the PCIe lanes). This means that there will not be a simple TB add-on card like adding a FW800/USB 2 card in the past.
The line I referenced seems to indicate that it would be possible for a TB controller to be on a graphics card (and thereby gaining direct access to the GPU) and have direct access to the PCIe lane(s) in which the "TB enabled Graphics Card" is mounted with true (video and data) TB port(s) on the outside.
Would Apple prefer to sell you a new machine? Of course they would. Apple have a well established, if nasty, pattern of abandoning the purchasers of earlier hardware to their fate (not co-incidentally, it is one of the arguments against the use of the Mac platform frequently aired by the PC community).
I believe I mentioned third party developers. If not I do so now. It would be an interesting project for a third party manufacturer to integrate a TB controller and associated ports onto a graphics card that is otherwise the same as a supported graphics card so that it would be recognized by the OS.
Whether Apple have tied access to the TB ports in some bizarre manner which would make this impossible only some clever engineers would know after looking at the new OS & hardware implementation. Apple probably could not care less, but it is a market opportunity for somebody nonetheless.
The reason for the earlier reference to the data only possibility is the reality that external storage for Mac Pros is severely hampered by the lack of a fast interface unless one has made the transition to fibre.
A good RAID array could challenge the current TB bandwidth, but I doubt anyone would complain too loudly considering the lack of alternatives and the degree of improvement over the status quo.
Cheers
Everything I've read that is sourced to Intel says an add-on card won't be possible. It's my guess that the integration for Thunderbolt needs to be deeper than an PCI Express card, especially with its capability to carry video/data. It may be that Intel does not want people confused by data-only Thunderbolt ports. OTOH, I'm not a Thunderbolt engineer, so I may be completely mistaken. :D
Technical issues aside - odds are that Apple would rather sell you a new Mac Pro with Thunderbolt onboard.
I am not a Thunderbolt engineer either...in fact, it is interesting (and odd) that Intel is only now announcing the availability of a TB developer kit.
Do you trust the Wiki? While a grain of salt is advisable, I merely reference the item. It does seem to me, however, that the line you reference is talking about a non-GPU PCIe card. I had posted an earlier comment referencing the Intel position that there could not be a TB card (because TB must directly access both the graphics processor and the PCIe lanes). This means that there will not be a simple TB add-on card like adding a FW800/USB 2 card in the past.
The line I referenced seems to indicate that it would be possible for a TB controller to be on a graphics card (and thereby gaining direct access to the GPU) and have direct access to the PCIe lane(s) in which the "TB enabled Graphics Card" is mounted with true (video and data) TB port(s) on the outside.
Would Apple prefer to sell you a new machine? Of course they would. Apple have a well established, if nasty, pattern of abandoning the purchasers of earlier hardware to their fate (not co-incidentally, it is one of the arguments against the use of the Mac platform frequently aired by the PC community).
I believe I mentioned third party developers. If not I do so now. It would be an interesting project for a third party manufacturer to integrate a TB controller and associated ports onto a graphics card that is otherwise the same as a supported graphics card so that it would be recognized by the OS.
Whether Apple have tied access to the TB ports in some bizarre manner which would make this impossible only some clever engineers would know after looking at the new OS & hardware implementation. Apple probably could not care less, but it is a market opportunity for somebody nonetheless.
The reason for the earlier reference to the data only possibility is the reality that external storage for Mac Pros is severely hampered by the lack of a fast interface unless one has made the transition to fibre.
A good RAID array could challenge the current TB bandwidth, but I doubt anyone would complain too loudly considering the lack of alternatives and the degree of improvement over the status quo.
Cheers
TuffLuffJimmy
Apr 27, 12:34 AM
Stop taking my words out of context and twisting them to your advantage...
I never said that but I would be suspicious of said human
I'm confused. What part of his stance should we sympathize with if we were in his shoes?
I never said that but I would be suspicious of said human
I'm confused. What part of his stance should we sympathize with if we were in his shoes?
deloreanz
Mar 15, 05:56 PM
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Well I got to see Mystikal and Hasan Daddy get theirs after my failed attempt at Irvine spectrum. I was the Asian guy with the buzz cut hair. Unfortunately I got to Fashion Island to late. Congrats to you two!
Same here, I was the guy who went to south coast plaza first.
Well I got to see Mystikal and Hasan Daddy get theirs after my failed attempt at Irvine spectrum. I was the Asian guy with the buzz cut hair. Unfortunately I got to Fashion Island to late. Congrats to you two!
Same here, I was the guy who went to south coast plaza first.
Plutonius
Apr 26, 04:10 PM
so it's plutonius with 5.
hopefully you guys are right (although that would make me and appleguy prime suspects).
No need to worry. As I stated earlier, I have never been (including this game) a WW. It's up to the other players to get more involved and start posting analysis if the village has any chance of winning.
hopefully you guys are right (although that would make me and appleguy prime suspects).
No need to worry. As I stated earlier, I have never been (including this game) a WW. It's up to the other players to get more involved and start posting analysis if the village has any chance of winning.
SciFrog
Nov 30, 07:59 PM
But you have to run windows... GPU3 will apparently allow macs to run the gpu client because of open CL, and also help ATI which are fairings very poorly right now in Folding.
trule
Jan 30, 02:18 AM
Chartists come to absurd conclusions, such as AAPL having support at 60. This means a trailing P/E based on current earnings (without growth) of around 15. At 40, we're talking a P/E of ten. This assumes that AAPL's growth days are over, as of now. Does anything we know about the company, including its historical growth and product offerings comport with the idea of Apple turning into Dow Chemical? I don't think so.
PE's historically range between 7(bear lows) and 18 (bull highs) so 10 would be about the point where the weekly P&F chart (54) turns bearish.
However you must consider that AAPL is 100% discretionary consumer spending so when recession hits consumers will cut back in favour of things like food and oil. Want another negative, here is one, 18 billion in cash...held in a fast depreciating currency (lost half its value over the past 6 years). Or how about this, DRM free music, sure to result in more file sharing and less iTunes sales. And on the topic of iTunes, another negative, all that new competition...one of them is sure to break the AAPL hold on that market.
That weekly P&F chart is the worst I have seen in the past 5 years :eek:
PE's historically range between 7(bear lows) and 18 (bull highs) so 10 would be about the point where the weekly P&F chart (54) turns bearish.
However you must consider that AAPL is 100% discretionary consumer spending so when recession hits consumers will cut back in favour of things like food and oil. Want another negative, here is one, 18 billion in cash...held in a fast depreciating currency (lost half its value over the past 6 years). Or how about this, DRM free music, sure to result in more file sharing and less iTunes sales. And on the topic of iTunes, another negative, all that new competition...one of them is sure to break the AAPL hold on that market.
That weekly P&F chart is the worst I have seen in the past 5 years :eek:
TheyCallMeSaint
May 3, 11:28 PM
Disappointing, but expected. This actually brings up more questions than answers though:
1) Is this a permanent move to a Fall Release of the iPhone?
2) When, if ever, are they going to unite the CDMA and GSM iPhone releases (possibly in iPhone 5 with "World Chip")?
3) Does this affect the timing of iOS's release, which has traditionally been released with the new iPhone and has been centered around the iPhone's hardware?
4) The iPod touch has traditionally been released months after the iPhone. If the iPhone is released around Sept, will they release the iPod touch along with it?
Meh, I don't have an upgrade for 1.5 years, so it doesn't matter to me. But still interesting.
1) Is this a permanent move to a Fall Release of the iPhone?
2) When, if ever, are they going to unite the CDMA and GSM iPhone releases (possibly in iPhone 5 with "World Chip")?
3) Does this affect the timing of iOS's release, which has traditionally been released with the new iPhone and has been centered around the iPhone's hardware?
4) The iPod touch has traditionally been released months after the iPhone. If the iPhone is released around Sept, will they release the iPod touch along with it?
Meh, I don't have an upgrade for 1.5 years, so it doesn't matter to me. But still interesting.
Multimedia
Jul 25, 12:18 AM
Can't wait to see it for sale.
deloreanz
Mar 16, 09:57 AM
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About 40 in line now at SCP.
About 40 in line now at SCP.
LegendKillerUK
Apr 22, 04:13 PM
Nope.avi
s.meezy
Apr 26, 02:43 AM
ZOMG u ppl will believe anything! N94 and phone number are TAPED ONTO the back of the phone... there's a lot going on here, lulz.
#1: Fake Carrier via Cydia
#2: Microsoft Paint
#3: Labeling machine
To everyone in this thread saying Android is garbage, to you, you're right. Plz, there's a difference between fact and opinion...
#1: Fake Carrier via Cydia
#2: Microsoft Paint
#3: Labeling machine
To everyone in this thread saying Android is garbage, to you, you're right. Plz, there's a difference between fact and opinion...
Evangelion
Jul 12, 03:57 AM
So a camera ipod is possible or an accessory to add a camera/video support but it will be kind of a useless feature.
Not if you tie the iPod to iChat. "Videoconferencing, on the go".
Not if you tie the iPod to iChat. "Videoconferencing, on the go".
dgree03
Apr 28, 12:08 PM
Silly how? iPhone is a hardware and Android is an OS. This is apple v.s. meat. It's not even fruit v.s. fruit :rolleyes:
Since you are talking about "sale". Can you list any Androids device that outsell the iPhone?
---->>>>>>> Buy one get one free --> only 1 device make money, the second is free. So, for 100 Androids devices got on the customers' hand, only 50 of them are "sold".
No in bogo they BOTH make money. Verizon, Att, Tmobile and Sprint have already paid retail for the phone before customers recieve the contract price. Apple, Samsung, HTC etc have already made their money. Telcos now have to make their money over time with the contract.
So Bogo makes them money also.
Since you are talking about "sale". Can you list any Androids device that outsell the iPhone?
---->>>>>>> Buy one get one free --> only 1 device make money, the second is free. So, for 100 Androids devices got on the customers' hand, only 50 of them are "sold".
No in bogo they BOTH make money. Verizon, Att, Tmobile and Sprint have already paid retail for the phone before customers recieve the contract price. Apple, Samsung, HTC etc have already made their money. Telcos now have to make their money over time with the contract.
So Bogo makes them money also.
Blakjack
Apr 28, 11:02 AM
Anyone else find these stories on market share to be completely boring?!?
-Kevin
Insanely Boring
They can always try.
Please can we have some rumors abour iOS5 maybe?
Thats what Im waiting on also. Usually rumors would have been all over the place by now. All we are getting is cloud romors.
-Kevin
Insanely Boring
They can always try.
Please can we have some rumors abour iOS5 maybe?
Thats what Im waiting on also. Usually rumors would have been all over the place by now. All we are getting is cloud romors.
nicque
Apr 15, 11:41 AM
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Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/potatochips/5617931234/) by nick◮wujcik. (http://www.flickr.com/people/potatochips/), on Flickr
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nefan65
Apr 12, 09:20 AM
HTC sensation > iphone 5
That is all
Based on what? Oh...IC...I want it/have it, so it's better. Great 3rd grade mentality...
That is all
Based on what? Oh...IC...I want it/have it, so it's better. Great 3rd grade mentality...
GroundLoop
Jan 25, 07:10 PM
Apple just released its quarterly, and while it was higher than apple's expectations it did not meet analyst's expectations.
Not quite. Q1 exceeded everyone expectations financially. But it was the appearance of slowing iPod sales that scared everyone. The reason that Apple made its numbers is because Mac sales were extremely strong and covered the slowing iPod growth.
That and the very weak guidance for Q2 would scare a lot of investors who thought that Apple was a safe haven.
Hickman
Not quite. Q1 exceeded everyone expectations financially. But it was the appearance of slowing iPod sales that scared everyone. The reason that Apple made its numbers is because Mac sales were extremely strong and covered the slowing iPod growth.
That and the very weak guidance for Q2 would scare a lot of investors who thought that Apple was a safe haven.
Hickman
DavidLeblond
Apr 15, 02:59 PM
Uh-Oh! The Non-Disclosure Police are on patrol! Look out!
:rolleyes: Whatever. I'm not NDA police. Pirate all you want. Just don't be pissed when people don't post the changelog RIGHTAWAYS.
:rolleyes: Whatever. I'm not NDA police. Pirate all you want. Just don't be pissed when people don't post the changelog RIGHTAWAYS.
jazz1
Apr 14, 08:16 PM
4 hours to download for the ATT iPad version? The ATT iPhone4 version only took 6 minutes on the same computer. I guess I'll wait until tomorrow.
applefan27073
May 3, 07:57 AM
Awesome! But how do I get it????
Don't say go to the apple store, just did that
Check the link
http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac/select?mco=MjIwNTQyNjE
Don't say go to the apple store, just did that
Check the link
http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shop_mac/family/imac/select?mco=MjIwNTQyNjE
Davieis
Sep 16, 02:53 AM
New pair of kicks...Nike Air Force 1 Mids.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5707302/41-01975.jpg.png
My first iPhone.. (3GS Black)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5707302/Screen%20shot%202010-09-16%20at%205.49.00%20PM.png
And a dock for it..
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5707302/MB484_AV2.jpg
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5707302/41-01975.jpg.png
My first iPhone.. (3GS Black)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5707302/Screen%20shot%202010-09-16%20at%205.49.00%20PM.png
And a dock for it..
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5707302/MB484_AV2.jpg
roadbloc
Apr 29, 01:54 AM
Seriously, why not an Imac with touch-screen right now? Will we need to wait for the next iMac update to see this technology implemented?
Are you serious? Even if you were to put X on a big enough display so you could easily use it as a touchscreen, you're arm will die of fatigue in minutes. If you want a near touchscreen like experience with your new iMac, try a Magic Mouse or a Magic Trackpad.
Are you serious? Even if you were to put X on a big enough display so you could easily use it as a touchscreen, you're arm will die of fatigue in minutes. If you want a near touchscreen like experience with your new iMac, try a Magic Mouse or a Magic Trackpad.
Mac-Addict
Oct 24, 09:29 AM
Am very happy with the RAM but OMG, is it expensive (590� in Belgium) :eek: :eek: :eek:
Bought it anyways. Would like to find out if I swap that second dimm out for a 2GB, would it run at 4GB of RAM? Any takers?
I dont think so the iMac only supports upto 3gb of ram because of the chipset it uses and i think the macbookpro now uses the same chipset..
Bought it anyways. Would like to find out if I swap that second dimm out for a 2GB, would it run at 4GB of RAM? Any takers?
I dont think so the iMac only supports upto 3gb of ram because of the chipset it uses and i think the macbookpro now uses the same chipset..
mac.rumors
May 3, 08:29 AM
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Is it confirmed these beauties have SATA III?
Is it confirmed these beauties have SATA III?
